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[Dec. 7th, 2006|05:28 pm]
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[xvx_john_xvx]
Hey everyone.

Well, since no one's really online, or anything, I'm going to go on of a bit of a rant here.

Now, I don't know what the hardcore scene is like wherever you guys are, but here around Atlanta, and even in Lawrenceville, it's really good, and picking up pace. A ton of kids into all different types of music just come out and have fun. It's really awesome.

Well, anyway, a couple Saturdays ago, there was a show at this church, Central Christian Church. Over the past few months, we've had like, maybe two shows a month there. It's really awesome. It always seems like there's a show going on there.
The big bands in the local scene right now are Overdose, Above the Influence (or, now, Built Ford Tough), xThe Effortx, and others. You should look them up on Myspace if you get a chance.

Anyway, back to what I was saying. This show had Overdose, Lions of Judah, Signs of Hope, Choked Out, and a few other bands. Now, since this is a church, most of the bands playing are both Christian and Straight Edge, and when they play their sets, they explain to the crowd that they aren't there to shove what they beleive down anyone's throat, and that they respect you no matter what, etc.

Well, Choked Out is pretty much the exact opposite of that (atheist, not straight edge, "ATL hate crew", etc.). Well, when they got up to play, they really downed Christianity and Straight Edge. Not to mention the fact that a lot of the kids who came to see them play wrote stuff like "Jesus is a homosexual" all over the bathroom walls.

Something similar has happened like this before there, and it was shut down for a while. But, the people at the church were nice enough to let kids open it back up and use it as a venue again. This time though, it's been shut down for good, all because these kids and this band have no respect, and only care about keeping their "tough guy" image and bashing other peoples morals. This also gives the people at the church the worst impressions of any kid who goes to hardcore or punk shows, and just ups the stereotype of a "misled youth who listens to that devil music" or whatever.

Now, to me, hardcore seems to have always been a place to share what you believe and what you think, and present your morals in an environment where you don't have to worry about people being critical of you for it. Whether it be straight edge, vegetarianism/veganism, religion, DIY ethics, biking and environmentalism, living positive, or whatever else you hold close to your heart. No one is ever coerced into thinking something that they don't want to beleive, and respect is usually at the top of most kids lists.

This to me just seems like the exact opposite of that. These kids are destroying their own scene. By coming to a show at a church, they knew that a Christ centered, Straight Edge message would be presented by some of the bands. Instead of being respecful of them, they attack their morals, and end up getting an all ages venue with great sound, plenty of space, and close by shut down for good.
The only local venue left is the Treehouse, which will be back open in a few weeks, and The Loaf, which doesn't even put on that great of shows anymore.

I know most of you in this community are probably not into hardcore, but I guess I felt like sharing this with you to see if any of you have had any similar experiences with your scene.
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[User Picture]From: xvx_john_xvx
2006-12-08 02:48 am (UTC)
:sigh: yeah...apathy and selfishness suck. punk and hardcore should be about giving, not taking.
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From: gunsof_brixton_
2006-12-08 05:47 am (UTC)
Back home I used to be more involved with the local scene since there's none in Long Beach, but all the local venues were shut down for similar reasons. I've had friends get kicked out for moshing, mainly because people don't understand. But when people draw grafiti everywhere and live up to the "wasted youth" image it sucks. Ruins it for the rest of us.
Down here the big problem is FSU, other hardcore "crews", and the fact people seem to think they can be assholes in general.
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From: duschefocker
2006-12-10 03:27 pm (UTC)
Lawrenceville?! Where are you from? I live roughly two minutes away from lawrenceville.
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From: angerisenergy
2006-12-14 03:24 am (UTC)
Oh em gee, same thing's really been bothering me lately. The scene here is just getting disgusting. It's pretty much all about getting drunk now, and music is secondary.
Oh, and a similar thing happened here: We used to have this awesome venue called Little Fernwood, but it got closed because a drunk chick dyed her hair in the washroom, and the whole venue basically got trashed. They still rent it to acoustic folk guys, though...
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